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The Afternoon Rush - Ryan Fagan - Mets won't collapse if they stay healthy

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Ryan Fagan joined The Afternoon Rush to discuss the Braves losing weekend against the Mets, how successful New York will continue to be and which teams should be concerned at this point in the season. 

Pleasure to go over the guest I bring on from the sporting news. That's Ryan Fagan. Ryan, good afternoon are you? I'm doing well. I'm doing better than most braves. Now, no no doubt about that ride. And here were the braves, I think ten and a half back. At one point got all the way to a half game. I think Austin Riley said we're coming for him. Since that point in time, I think it has gone south for Atlanta. Now six and a half games back. Ryan, when you look at this braves team, is there a way they can bounce back and get back into this race with the mets? They can, sure, Um, I think it would take some doing on the mets part as well, to be honest with you. You know what I mean. I think as good as the braves can be, I mean this is a mets team to win. I mean the Graham is healthy, when sheers is healthy and there in that rotation and Edmund Diaz is pitching like like he peeked Dennisecorslee. I mean it's it's tough, you know, and they it's not to say that Atlanta is a bad team, because they need the mets to falter a little bit, but that's is the reality of the situation. If...

...that's a really good you know, and I think an underrated thing is how how good Francisco the door has been over the past month. There are so you know, Pete Alonso has been treating the second half like he's still in the home underby. So you know, I think the mats are clicking on all cylinders right now and and the braves have been really good until, you know, they ran into a bus out there in New York. But uh, you know, there's still there's still enough time in the season and the and the braves are still putting these cells in a good enough position that they can claim that first wild card. If they don't catch the mets in the division, they can claim that first wild card and still get the home games in the postseason, in the first round. So I think that's that's just as important as maybe even catching the mats. It's not falling into that final two wild card spots. All right, when you look at this braves team compared to that team last year's trade deadline, all the moves they made were just perfect for that team. Where does this team now, compared to what we saw a year ago. I still think they're right. Now they're they're...

...ahead of where they were last year. I mean, I don't think there's any thought about that. I think that, you know, they kind of cocked fire, but you know, I mean I remember. I mean, how many Games was it that the braves alternative wins and losses last year? It was like eighteen games, something incredible, until they finally won a couple of games in a row. I remember it was a series in St Louis because I was covering those games. And and then they caught it. They finally won a couple in a row and then they took off and then, obviously we all know what they did in the postseason. But I mean the thing is, the thing about last year is, look, they were, they were a fine regular season team, they were, and they played crazy good baseball in the postseason and some things happened in that postseason that you know, quite frankly, are not going to happen again. Right. This isn't a hundred and five win teams. That brought back every piece to a hundred five win team and they're going to be that type of team again in the postseason. The braves the last year were a good team that played crazy baseball and they got every key out they neither. They got every hit that they...

...needed and they won the world series and it was amazing. Um and they're a better team this year than they were last year. But that doesn't mean every single thing is going to go right again in the postseason. I think it almost feels like some braves fans look at and say, well, look what we did in the postseason last year, we can do that again. Maybe, but I think that that that would be a lot to count on getting all those things to fall right for them. Ryan Fagan, Sporting News, now joining us on the afternoon rush. And what is different for this mets team, Ryan, or should we be expecting uneventual collapse or type of collapse from New York, and should we expect the mets to pull the mets? I think that's what that's what every braves fan is waiting to see, because, I mean it's been pretty consistent. You know what I mean, death taxes and the mets falling apart. But you know, I mean as long as they stay healthy. I don't think this is the type of team that's going to do that, you know, again, because some of the reasons. We talked about Lind door being, I mean Francisco indoors has been a for the past month or so the type of player that they expected when...

...they got back to cland when they traded for Cleveland, and he has not often been that guy. But when he's playing at that, you know, all star slash m VP type level and alonsos hitting home runs and they're getting contributions from all over, you know that's that's that's a different ball game. And you know injuries happen right and you can't, you can't Um avoid those sometimes and there's nobody's fault. But if the mets have Max Scherzer and Jacob degram and their rotation the rest of the year, they are not falling apart. You know, I think it's it's that simple. There are other things that could happen, but if you've got those two guys taking the ball the games that it starts going forward, the mets are not going to have any sort of tumble at all. There was some people here on this show that kind of wanted to be all in on the padres following the trade deadline, and that is me. I am some people, but is it bad news for the padres after that series against the dodgers? No, you know,...

I don't think so, because, look, the reality of the situation is that the padres were never going to catch the dodgers right for the same reasons that it would be tough for the braves to catch the mets. The padres are, what six, seven games behind where the mets are, rather where the braves are in relation to the mets. So they were never going to catch the dodgers. And so it would have been cool for San Diego if they went in and they and they did something like what the cardinals did to the Yankees this weekend and they said Hey, we're we're here, we're we're legitimate. But they were never going to finish first place in the NLS. They were always going to have to go through the wild card scenario. They were always going to have to win in October. And the question is, is that team built to win in October? And you know, you look at that lineup and when tattoos comes back, and that's part of the tattoos still isn't in that mix. So when he comes back and he's in that lineup, right next to one. So do a many with child O. that's not a lineup anyone wants to face. That's that's a brutal line up, especially brandon jury is playing well and you know, Jake conin worth is doing the things that he's capable of doing. You know, I wonder a...

...little bit about the starters for the padres. I think that's the bigger question to me. Adding Josh Hayter to the back of that boten Um, I think, could prove to be a fantastic move for them, especially considering, Um, what it costs. And when you look at what the brewers have been like without Josh had back there. It's kind of a complete disaster in Milwaukee right now. But you know, I think that. I think that the potters are still in in good, in good shape. I think they said they wanted to go in there and and so that they're the equal of the dodgers and it didn't happen in this series, but that doesn't mean that they can't beat them in October. Bryan, you bring up the brewers. Uh, it was a bad weekend as a braves fan, but my wife didn't want to hear it. She told me to go crobbing a river as a brewers fan that she is, about what has happened in Milwaukee in the last week. And you brought up the hater trade and the ripple effects that it seems like it has had on that team. And they get swept by the pirates, they lose two out of three at home to the red I mean, is this something they can recover from? It? It just it just feels like David sturge and Mark Anthonascio sent shock waves through that locker room...

...that they're just not going to be able to recover from. It sure feels like that, doesn't it? You know? I mean there's a lot of baseball left and what matters is what you do in October, but man, that feels like a seismic change for the worst in that clubhouse and because, especially, you know, it's not just that they were swept by the pirates and they lost the reads, it's the way that it happened. You know, Devin Williams had his worst stretch in the past two months. You know, at the back of the bullpen, Taylor Rodgers came in, did not pitch well. Matt Bush came in, did not pitch well. These are all games and it's not a stretch to think if Josh Hayd is there and the bullpen lines up the way that it has for most of the past two years, they could have won all six games. Right. It's not crazy to think that a normal brewers team wins all six games. Instead, you have guys in different roles and new uniforms not pitching with the capability and you...

...have just a series of just disastrous outings by the bullpen and the defense not doing anything to help them. You know it's and then when you contrast that to the team that was right behind them, in the cardinals, you know, getting Jose Quintana and he throws six sending, gives up one hits and his and his debut, Jordan Montgomery throws five shutout endings against the Yankees, his former team, in his debut. They win six. They've won seven games in a row now. Paul de Young had been in the minors forever and all of a sudden he's coming up with monster EIDEN and hits eight and he hits and you know it's crazy. And actually have written something that's gonna Publish tomorrow. I don't want to give away too many secrets, but it's it's crazy how much that division changed in the matter of six days because it went from the brewers being in pretty good control of that division to a complete a bit of chaos right now. And the cardinals also getting out here Molina back. You know, I can tell you having in there over the weekend,...

...that's that's a different team vibe than it was for a lot of a lot of the years. It would not surprise me at all if you look up a two weeks and the cardinals have a five or six games leading that division. And Ron, you said you were there this weekend. You talked about the cardinals. But on the other side of the Yankees, I don't know if they were bored at the All star break or what, but they have not been the same theme so far in the second half. As you watch them this weekend. Are Their concerns when you look at the Yankees right now? No, I think because there are reasons right there are reasons that they lost the three games. You know. I mean they don't have a stanton right now. You Know Anthony Rizzo was out with his little back issue that they say is not going to be a big deal. You know, Frankie Mantas came in and made the start Um and his Yankees debut on Sunday, but he'd been on the bereave that list so he hadn't had his normal routine. Flies in on Saturday, gets the start on Sunday and they didn't go well. I mean, okay, that happens, right. You Know...

Garrett Cole didn't start in that series. You know they had the Mingo Herman started one of those games and you know, I just I think if you're looking for panic Um for the Yankees and reasons to be really worried, I don't think they're. They're right. I'm not right now, because there are reasons that they didn't have their full Um lineup. They didn't have everyone of their best players going. You know, if this is the postseason series, obviously Garrett Cole starts one of those games, right, but he didn't because his turn of the rotation wasn't there. So you know, again it's kind of like the padres and looking at the dodgers. It's not what you want, but it's not a disaster, right, and I think as long as they get people healthy and they have the right guys going up in the right matchups. So I think they'll be just fine. Ryan Vegan is sporting news. Always great stuff, Ryan, appreciate the time. Thank you very much. Enjoy it. Thank there you go, Ryan Fagan of the Sporting News. You wanted us here on the afternoon rush. Will take a time out. More to come. Seven thirty of the game.

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